| Frequently Asked Questions: | |
| =========================== | |
| subject: unified zoran driver (zr360x7, zoran, buz, dc10(+), dc30(+), lml33) | |
| website: http://mjpeg.sourceforge.net/driver-zoran/ | |
| 1. What cards are supported | |
| 1.1 What the TV decoder can do an what not | |
| 1.2 What the TV encoder can do an what not | |
| 2. How do I get this damn thing to work | |
| 3. What mainboard should I use (or why doesn't my card work) | |
| 4. Programming interface | |
| 5. Applications | |
| 6. Concerning buffer sizes, quality, output size etc. | |
| 7. It hangs/crashes/fails/whatevers! Help! | |
| 8. Maintainers/Contacting | |
| 9. License | |
| =========================== | |
| 1. What cards are supported | |
| Iomega Buz, Linux Media Labs LML33/LML33R10, Pinnacle/Miro | |
| DC10/DC10+/DC30/DC30+ and related boards (available under various names). | |
| Iomega Buz: | |
| * Zoran zr36067 PCI controller | |
| * Zoran zr36060 MJPEG codec | |
| * Philips saa7111 TV decoder | |
| * Philips saa7185 TV encoder | |
| Drivers to use: videodev, i2c-core, i2c-algo-bit, | |
| videocodec, saa7111, saa7185, zr36060, zr36067 | |
| Inputs/outputs: Composite and S-video | |
| Norms: PAL, SECAM (720x576 @ 25 fps), NTSC (720x480 @ 29.97 fps) | |
| Card number: 7 | |
| AverMedia 6 Eyes AVS6EYES: | |
| * Zoran zr36067 PCI controller | |
| * Zoran zr36060 MJPEG codec | |
| * Samsung ks0127 TV decoder | |
| * Conexant bt866 TV encoder | |
| Drivers to use: videodev, i2c-core, i2c-algo-bit, | |
| videocodec, ks0127, bt866, zr36060, zr36067 | |
| Inputs/outputs: Six physical inputs. 1-6 are composite, | |
| 1-2, 3-4, 5-6 doubles as S-video, | |
| 1-3 triples as component. | |
| One composite output. | |
| Norms: PAL, SECAM (720x576 @ 25 fps), NTSC (720x480 @ 29.97 fps) | |
| Card number: 8 | |
| Not autodetected, card=8 is necessary. | |
| Linux Media Labs LML33: | |
| * Zoran zr36067 PCI controller | |
| * Zoran zr36060 MJPEG codec | |
| * Brooktree bt819 TV decoder | |
| * Brooktree bt856 TV encoder | |
| Drivers to use: videodev, i2c-core, i2c-algo-bit, | |
| videocodec, bt819, bt856, zr36060, zr36067 | |
| Inputs/outputs: Composite and S-video | |
| Norms: PAL (720x576 @ 25 fps), NTSC (720x480 @ 29.97 fps) | |
| Card number: 5 | |
| Linux Media Labs LML33R10: | |
| * Zoran zr36067 PCI controller | |
| * Zoran zr36060 MJPEG codec | |
| * Philips saa7114 TV decoder | |
| * Analog Devices adv7170 TV encoder | |
| Drivers to use: videodev, i2c-core, i2c-algo-bit, | |
| videocodec, saa7114, adv7170, zr36060, zr36067 | |
| Inputs/outputs: Composite and S-video | |
| Norms: PAL (720x576 @ 25 fps), NTSC (720x480 @ 29.97 fps) | |
| Card number: 6 | |
| Pinnacle/Miro DC10(new): | |
| * Zoran zr36057 PCI controller | |
| * Zoran zr36060 MJPEG codec | |
| * Philips saa7110a TV decoder | |
| * Analog Devices adv7176 TV encoder | |
| Drivers to use: videodev, i2c-core, i2c-algo-bit, | |
| videocodec, saa7110, adv7175, zr36060, zr36067 | |
| Inputs/outputs: Composite, S-video and Internal | |
| Norms: PAL, SECAM (768x576 @ 25 fps), NTSC (640x480 @ 29.97 fps) | |
| Card number: 1 | |
| Pinnacle/Miro DC10+: | |
| * Zoran zr36067 PCI controller | |
| * Zoran zr36060 MJPEG codec | |
| * Philips saa7110a TV decoder | |
| * Analog Devices adv7176 TV encoder | |
| Drivers to use: videodev, i2c-core, i2c-algo-bit, | |
| videocodec, sa7110, adv7175, zr36060, zr36067 | |
| Inputs/outputs: Composite, S-video and Internal | |
| Norms: PAL, SECAM (768x576 @ 25 fps), NTSC (640x480 @ 29.97 fps) | |
| Card number: 2 | |
| Pinnacle/Miro DC10(old): * | |
| * Zoran zr36057 PCI controller | |
| * Zoran zr36050 MJPEG codec | |
| * Zoran zr36016 Video Front End or Fuji md0211 Video Front End (clone?) | |
| * Micronas vpx3220a TV decoder | |
| * mse3000 TV encoder or Analog Devices adv7176 TV encoder * | |
| Drivers to use: videodev, i2c-core, i2c-algo-bit, | |
| videocodec, vpx3220, mse3000/adv7175, zr36050, zr36016, zr36067 | |
| Inputs/outputs: Composite, S-video and Internal | |
| Norms: PAL, SECAM (768x576 @ 25 fps), NTSC (640x480 @ 29.97 fps) | |
| Card number: 0 | |
| Pinnacle/Miro DC30: * | |
| * Zoran zr36057 PCI controller | |
| * Zoran zr36050 MJPEG codec | |
| * Zoran zr36016 Video Front End | |
| * Micronas vpx3225d/vpx3220a/vpx3216b TV decoder | |
| * Analog Devices adv7176 TV encoder | |
| Drivers to use: videodev, i2c-core, i2c-algo-bit, | |
| videocodec, vpx3220/vpx3224, adv7175, zr36050, zr36016, zr36067 | |
| Inputs/outputs: Composite, S-video and Internal | |
| Norms: PAL, SECAM (768x576 @ 25 fps), NTSC (640x480 @ 29.97 fps) | |
| Card number: 3 | |
| Pinnacle/Miro DC30+: * | |
| * Zoran zr36067 PCI controller | |
| * Zoran zr36050 MJPEG codec | |
| * Zoran zr36016 Video Front End | |
| * Micronas vpx3225d/vpx3220a/vpx3216b TV decoder | |
| * Analog Devices adv7176 TV encoder | |
| Drivers to use: videodev, i2c-core, i2c-algo-bit, | |
| videocodec, vpx3220/vpx3224, adv7175, zr36050, zr36015, zr36067 | |
| Inputs/outputs: Composite, S-video and Internal | |
| Norms: PAL, SECAM (768x576 @ 25 fps), NTSC (640x480 @ 29.97 fps) | |
| Card number: 4 | |
| Note: No module for the mse3000 is available yet | |
| Note: No module for the vpx3224 is available yet | |
| =========================== | |
| 1.1 What the TV decoder can do an what not | |
| The best know TV standards are NTSC/PAL/SECAM. but for decoding a frame that | |
| information is not enough. There are several formats of the TV standards. | |
| And not every TV decoder is able to handle every format. Also the every | |
| combination is supported by the driver. There are currently 11 different | |
| tv broadcast formats all aver the world. | |
| The CCIR defines parameters needed for broadcasting the signal. | |
| The CCIR has defined different standards: A,B,D,E,F,G,D,H,I,K,K1,L,M,N,... | |
| The CCIR says not much about the colorsystem used !!! | |
| And talking about a colorsystem says not to much about how it is broadcast. | |
| The CCIR standards A,E,F are not used any more. | |
| When you speak about NTSC, you usually mean the standard: CCIR - M using | |
| the NTSC colorsystem which is used in the USA, Japan, Mexico, Canada | |
| and a few others. | |
| When you talk about PAL, you usually mean: CCIR - B/G using the PAL | |
| colorsystem which is used in many Countries. | |
| When you talk about SECAM, you mean: CCIR - L using the SECAM Colorsystem | |
| which is used in France, and a few others. | |
| There the other version of SECAM, CCIR - D/K is used in Bulgaria, China, | |
| Slovakai, Hungary, Korea (Rep.), Poland, Rumania and a others. | |
| The CCIR - H uses the PAL colorsystem (sometimes SECAM) and is used in | |
| Egypt, Libya, Sri Lanka, Syrain Arab. Rep. | |
| The CCIR - I uses the PAL colorsystem, and is used in Great Britain, Hong Kong, | |
| Ireland, Nigeria, South Africa. | |
| The CCIR - N uses the PAL colorsystem and PAL frame size but the NTSC framerate, | |
| and is used in Argentinia, Uruguay, an a few others | |
| We do not talk about how the audio is broadcast ! | |
| A rather good sites about the TV standards are: | |
| http://www.sony.jp/support/ | |
| http://info.electronicwerkstatt.de/bereiche/fernsehtechnik/frequenzen_und_normen/Fernsehnormen/ | |
| and http://www.cabl.com/restaurant/channel.html | |
| Other weird things around: NTSC 4.43 is a modificated NTSC, which is mainly | |
| used in PAL VCR's that are able to play back NTSC. PAL 60 seems to be the same | |
| as NTSC 4.43 . The Datasheets also talk about NTSC 44, It seems as if it would | |
| be the same as NTSC 4.43. | |
| NTSC Combs seems to be a decoder mode where the decoder uses a comb filter | |
| to split coma and luma instead of a Delay line. | |
| But I did not defiantly find out what NTSC Comb is. | |
| Philips saa7111 TV decoder | |
| was introduced in 1997, is used in the BUZ and | |
| can handle: PAL B/G/H/I, PAL N, PAL M, NTSC M, NTSC N, NTSC 4.43 and SECAM | |
| Philips saa7110a TV decoder | |
| was introduced in 1995, is used in the Pinnacle/Miro DC10(new), DC10+ and | |
| can handle: PAL B/G, NTSC M and SECAM | |
| Philips saa7114 TV decoder | |
| was introduced in 2000, is used in the LML33R10 and | |
| can handle: PAL B/G/D/H/I/N, PAL N, PAL M, NTSC M, NTSC 4.43 and SECAM | |
| Brooktree bt819 TV decoder | |
| was introduced in 1996, and is used in the LML33 and | |
| can handle: PAL B/D/G/H/I, NTSC M | |
| Micronas vpx3220a TV decoder | |
| was introduced in 1996, is used in the DC30 and DC30+ and | |
| can handle: PAL B/G/H/I, PAL N, PAL M, NTSC M, NTSC 44, PAL 60, SECAM,NTSC Comb | |
| Samsung ks0127 TV decoder | |
| is used in the AVS6EYES card and | |
| can handle: NTSC-M/N/44, PAL-M/N/B/G/H/I/D/K/L and SECAM | |
| =========================== | |
| 1.2 What the TV encoder can do an what not | |
| The TV encoder are doing the "same" as the decoder, but in the oder direction. | |
| You feed them digital data and the generate a Composite or SVHS signal. | |
| For information about the colorsystems and TV norm take a look in the | |
| TV decoder section. | |
| Philips saa7185 TV Encoder | |
| was introduced in 1996, is used in the BUZ | |
| can generate: PAL B/G, NTSC M | |
| Brooktree bt856 TV Encoder | |
| was introduced in 1994, is used in the LML33 | |
| can generate: PAL B/D/G/H/I/N, PAL M, NTSC M, PAL-N (Argentina) | |
| Analog Devices adv7170 TV Encoder | |
| was introduced in 2000, is used in the LML300R10 | |
| can generate: PAL B/D/G/H/I/N, PAL M, NTSC M, PAL 60 | |
| Analog Devices adv7175 TV Encoder | |
| was introduced in 1996, is used in the DC10, DC10+, DC10 old, DC30, DC30+ | |
| can generate: PAL B/D/G/H/I/N, PAL M, NTSC M | |
| ITT mse3000 TV encoder | |
| was introduced in 1991, is used in the DC10 old | |
| can generate: PAL , NTSC , SECAM | |
| Conexant bt866 TV encoder | |
| is used in AVS6EYES, and | |
| can generate: NTSC/PAL, PALÂM, PALÂN | |
| The adv717x, should be able to produce PAL N. But you find nothing PAL N | |
| specific in the registers. Seem that you have to reuse a other standard | |
| to generate PAL N, maybe it would work if you use the PAL M settings. | |
| ========================== | |
| 2. How do I get this damn thing to work | |
| Load zr36067.o. If it can't autodetect your card, use the card=X insmod | |
| option with X being the card number as given in the previous section. | |
| To have more than one card, use card=X1[,X2[,X3,[X4[..]]]] | |
| To automate this, add the following to your /etc/modprobe.d/zoran.conf: | |
| options zr36067 card=X1[,X2[,X3[,X4[..]]]] | |
| alias char-major-81-0 zr36067 | |
| One thing to keep in mind is that this doesn't load zr36067.o itself yet. It | |
| just automates loading. If you start using xawtv, the device won't load on | |
| some systems, since you're trying to load modules as a user, which is not | |
| allowed ("permission denied"). A quick workaround is to add 'Load "v4l"' to | |
| XF86Config-4 when you use X by default, or to run 'v4l-conf -c <device>' in | |
| one of your startup scripts (normally rc.local) if you don't use X. Both | |
| make sure that the modules are loaded on startup, under the root account. | |
| =========================== | |
| 3. What mainboard should I use (or why doesn't my card work) | |
| <insert lousy disclaimer here>. In short: good=SiS/Intel, bad=VIA. | |
| Experience tells us that people with a Buz, on average, have more problems | |
| than users with a DC10+/LML33. Also, it tells us that people owning a VIA- | |
| based mainboard (ktXXX, MVP3) have more problems than users with a mainboard | |
| based on a different chipset. Here's some notes from Andrew Stevens: | |
| -- | |
| Here's my experience of using LML33 and Buz on various motherboards: | |
| VIA MVP3 | |
| Forget it. Pointless. Doesn't work. | |
| Intel 430FX (Pentium 200) | |
| LML33 perfect, Buz tolerable (3 or 4 frames dropped per movie) | |
| Intel 440BX (early stepping) | |
| LML33 tolerable. Buz starting to get annoying (6-10 frames/hour) | |
| Intel 440BX (late stepping) | |
| Buz tolerable, LML3 almost perfect (occasional single frame drops) | |
| SiS735 | |
| LML33 perfect, Buz tolerable. | |
| VIA KT133(*) | |
| LML33 starting to get annoying, Buz poor enough that I have up. | |
| Both 440BX boards were dual CPU versions. | |
| -- | |
| Bernhard Praschinger later added: | |
| -- | |
| AMD 751 | |
| Buz perfect-tolerable | |
| AMD 760 | |
| Buz perfect-tolerable | |
| -- | |
| In general, people on the user mailinglist won't give you much of a chance | |
| if you have a VIA-based motherboard. They may be cheap, but sometimes, you'd | |
| rather want to spend some more money on better boards. In general, VIA | |
| mainboard's IDE/PCI performance will also suck badly compared to others. | |
| You'll noticed the DC10+/DC30+ aren't mentioned anywhere in the overview. | |
| Basically, you can assume that if the Buz works, the LML33 will work too. If | |
| the LML33 works, the DC10+/DC30+ will work too. They're most tolerant to | |
| different mainboard chipsets from all of the supported cards. | |
| If you experience timeouts during capture, buy a better mainboard or lower | |
| the quality/buffersize during capture (see 'Concerning buffer sizes, quality, | |
| output size etc.'). If it hangs, there's little we can do as of now. Check | |
| your IRQs and make sure the card has its own interrupts. | |
| =========================== | |
| 4. Programming interface | |
| This driver conforms to video4linux2. Support for V4L1 and for the custom | |
| zoran ioctls has been removed in kernel 2.6.38. | |
| For programming example, please, look at lavrec.c and lavplay.c code in | |
| the MJPEG-tools (http://mjpeg.sf.net/). | |
| Additional notes for software developers: | |
| The driver returns maxwidth and maxheight parameters according to | |
| the current TV standard (norm). Therefore, the software which | |
| communicates with the driver and "asks" for these parameters should | |
| first set the correct norm. Well, it seems logically correct: TV | |
| standard is "more constant" for current country than geometry | |
| settings of a variety of TV capture cards which may work in ITU or | |
| square pixel format. | |
| =========================== | |
| 5. Applications | |
| Applications known to work with this driver: | |
| TV viewing: | |
| * xawtv | |
| * kwintv | |
| * probably any TV application that supports video4linux or video4linux2. | |
| MJPEG capture/playback: | |
| * mjpegtools/lavtools (or Linux Video Studio) | |
| * gstreamer | |
| * mplayer | |
| General raw capture: | |
| * xawtv | |
| * gstreamer | |
| * probably any application that supports video4linux or video4linux2 | |
| Video editing: | |
| * Cinelerra | |
| * MainActor | |
| * mjpegtools (or Linux Video Studio) | |
| =========================== | |
| 6. Concerning buffer sizes, quality, output size etc. | |
| The zr36060 can do 1:2 JPEG compression. This is really the theoretical | |
| maximum that the chipset can reach. The driver can, however, limit compression | |
| to a maximum (size) of 1:4. The reason for this is that some cards (e.g. Buz) | |
| can't handle 1:2 compression without stopping capture after only a few minutes. | |
| With 1:4, it'll mostly work. If you have a Buz, use 'low_bitrate=1' to go into | |
| 1:4 max. compression mode. | |
| 100% JPEG quality is thus 1:2 compression in practice. So for a full PAL frame | |
| (size 720x576). The JPEG fields are stored in YUY2 format, so the size of the | |
| fields are 720x288x16/2 bits/field (2 fields/frame) = 207360 bytes/field x 2 = | |
| 414720 bytes/frame (add some more bytes for headers and DHT (huffman)/DQT | |
| (quantization) tables, and you'll get to something like 512kB per frame for | |
| 1:2 compression. For 1:4 compression, you'd have frames of half this size. | |
| Some additional explanation by Martin Samuelsson, which also explains the | |
| importance of buffer sizes: | |
| -- | |
| > Hmm, I do not think it is really that way. With the current (downloaded | |
| > at 18:00 Monday) driver I get that output sizes for 10 sec: | |
| > -q 50 -b 128 : 24.283.332 Bytes | |
| > -q 50 -b 256 : 48.442.368 | |
| > -q 25 -b 128 : 24.655.992 | |
| > -q 25 -b 256 : 25.859.820 | |
| I woke up, and can't go to sleep again. I'll kill some time explaining why | |
| this doesn't look strange to me. | |
| Let's do some math using a width of 704 pixels. I'm not sure whether the Buz | |
| actually use that number or not, but that's not too important right now. | |
| 704x288 pixels, one field, is 202752 pixels. Divided by 64 pixels per block; | |
| 3168 blocks per field. Each pixel consist of two bytes; 128 bytes per block; | |
| 1024 bits per block. 100% in the new driver mean 1:2 compression; the maximum | |
| output becomes 512 bits per block. Actually 510, but 512 is simpler to use | |
| for calculations. | |
| Let's say that we specify d1q50. We thus want 256 bits per block; times 3168 | |
| becomes 811008 bits; 101376 bytes per field. We're talking raw bits and bytes | |
| here, so we don't need to do any fancy corrections for bits-per-pixel or such | |
| things. 101376 bytes per field. | |
| d1 video contains two fields per frame. Those sum up to 202752 bytes per | |
| frame, and one of those frames goes into each buffer. | |
| But wait a second! -b128 gives 128kB buffers! It's not possible to cram | |
| 202752 bytes of JPEG data into 128kB! | |
| This is what the driver notice and automatically compensate for in your | |
| examples. Let's do some math using this information: | |
| 128kB is 131072 bytes. In this buffer, we want to store two fields, which | |
| leaves 65536 bytes for each field. Using 3168 blocks per field, we get | |
| 20.68686868... available bytes per block; 165 bits. We can't allow the | |
| request for 256 bits per block when there's only 165 bits available! The -q50 | |
| option is silently overridden, and the -b128 option takes precedence, leaving | |
| us with the equivalence of -q32. | |
| This gives us a data rate of 165 bits per block, which, times 3168, sums up | |
| to 65340 bytes per field, out of the allowed 65536. The current driver has | |
| another level of rate limiting; it won't accept -q values that fill more than | |
| 6/8 of the specified buffers. (I'm not sure why. "Playing it safe" seem to be | |
| a safe bet. Personally, I think I would have lowered requested-bits-per-block | |
| by one, or something like that.) We can't use 165 bits per block, but have to | |
| lower it again, to 6/8 of the available buffer space: We end up with 124 bits | |
| per block, the equivalence of -q24. With 128kB buffers, you can't use greater | |
| than -q24 at -d1. (And PAL, and 704 pixels width...) | |
| The third example is limited to -q24 through the same process. The second | |
| example, using very similar calculations, is limited to -q48. The only | |
| example that actually grab at the specified -q value is the last one, which | |
| is clearly visible, looking at the file size. | |
| -- | |
| Conclusion: the quality of the resulting movie depends on buffer size, quality, | |
| whether or not you use 'low_bitrate=1' as insmod option for the zr36060.c | |
| module to do 1:4 instead of 1:2 compression, etc. | |
| If you experience timeouts, lowering the quality/buffersize or using | |
| 'low_bitrate=1 as insmod option for zr36060.o might actually help, as is | |
| proven by the Buz. | |
| =========================== | |
| 7. It hangs/crashes/fails/whatevers! Help! | |
| Make sure that the card has its own interrupts (see /proc/interrupts), check | |
| the output of dmesg at high verbosity (load zr36067.o with debug=2, | |
| load all other modules with debug=1). Check that your mainboard is favorable | |
| (see question 2) and if not, test the card in another computer. Also see the | |
| notes given in question 3 and try lowering quality/buffersize/capturesize | |
| if recording fails after a period of time. | |
| If all this doesn't help, give a clear description of the problem including | |
| detailed hardware information (memory+brand, mainboard+chipset+brand, which | |
| MJPEG card, processor, other PCI cards that might be of interest), give the | |
| system PnP information (/proc/interrupts, /proc/dma, /proc/devices), and give | |
| the kernel version, driver version, glibc version, gcc version and any other | |
| information that might possibly be of interest. Also provide the dmesg output | |
| at high verbosity. See 'Contacting' on how to contact the developers. | |
| =========================== | |
| 8. Maintainers/Contacting | |
| The driver is currently maintained by Laurent Pinchart and Ronald Bultje | |
| (<laurent.pinchart@skynet.be> and <rbultje@ronald.bitfreak.net>). For bug | |
| reports or questions, please contact the mailinglist instead of the developers | |
| individually. For user questions (i.e. bug reports or how-to questions), send | |
| an email to <mjpeg-users@lists.sf.net>, for developers (i.e. if you want to | |
| help programming), send an email to <mjpeg-developer@lists.sf.net>. See | |
| http://www.sf.net/projects/mjpeg/ for subscription information. | |
| For bug reports, be sure to include all the information as described in | |
| the section 'It hangs/crashes/fails/whatevers! Help!'. Please make sure | |
| you're using the latest version (http://mjpeg.sf.net/driver-zoran/). | |
| Previous maintainers/developers of this driver include Serguei Miridonov | |
| <mirsev@cicese.mx>, Wolfgang Scherr <scherr@net4you.net>, Dave Perks | |
| <dperks@ibm.net> and Rainer Johanni <Rainer@Johanni.de>. | |
| =========================== | |
| 9. License | |
| This driver is distributed under the terms of the General Public License. | |
| This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify | |
| it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by | |
| the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or | |
| (at your option) any later version. | |
| This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, | |
| but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of | |
| MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the | |
| GNU General Public License for more details. | |
| You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License | |
| along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software | |
| Foundation, Inc., 675 Mass Ave, Cambridge, MA 02139, USA. | |
| See http://www.gnu.org/ for more information. |